T Magazine:You once described your sound as “post-Internet.” Can you expand on this?
Grimes:Neurologically, until you’re about 12 or 13 years old, your brain is very plastic, which means that the neural pathways that you’re carving are kind of endless and you’re not really specializing in anything but you’re learning really fast. And then around the time you hit puberty, you begin to develop muscle memory in the pathways you’re using most frequently and really hone your skills. Historically people ride bikes and whatever — and those are skills you’ll have for the rest of your life. So what’s interesting about my generation and people younger than me, is that when I was 12 or 13, we just got Napster and we just got the Internet and the thing that I learned to do, or the sort of overwhelming craft in my life at the time besides ballet, was learning how to research really well. Especially in my relationship with music. It wasn’t like, “Oh I love punk music, I love country music.” It was very single oriented, it was very Napster oriented, where I wanted as much music as I could get. There was just so much stuff out there and it wasn’t about the process my parents had of going to the record store and falling in love with that record and becoming really well acquainted with that record. For me, it was more about constantly stimulating my brain with new stuff. I think that there is no way that that couldn’t influence the way you develop as a person, artistically. I mean it just physically would never have been possible for anyone really older than me to have that kind of experience and I think that one of the reasons music seems to be changing so drastically right now is that you have people coming of age who are the first generation of people that have this experience and we’re technically, biologically, different. From a neurological standpoint.
Ableism must be included in our analysis of oppression and in our conversations about violence, responses to violence and ending violence. Ableism cuts across all of our movements because ableism dictates how bodies should function against a mythical norm—an able-bodied standard of white supremacy, heterosexism, sexism, economic exploitation, moral/religious beliefs, age and ability. Ableism set the stage for queer and trans people to be institutionalized as mentally disabled; for communities of color to be understood as less capable, smart and intelligent, therefore “naturally” fit for slave labor; for women’s bodies to be used to produce children, when, where and how men needed them; for people with disabilities to be seen as “disposable” in a capitalist and exploitative culture because we are not seen as “productive;” for immigrants to be thought of as a “disease” that we must “cure” because it is “weakening” our country; for violence, cycles of poverty, lack of resources and war to be used as systematic tools to construct disability in communities and entire countries.
I want to be somebody’s favorite hiding place, the place they can put everything they know they need to survive, every secret, every solitude, every nervous prayer, and be absolutely certain I will keep it safe. I will keep it safe.